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Welcome all 22 Jan 2012 01:17 #1

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wow, it works, welcome to the new ship, take some time to snoop around before jumping me, :evil:
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Re: Welcome all 28 Jan 2012 23:03 #2

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we are doing a live test for awhile. feel free to use anything. data should be saved so go ahead and post/upload/whatever but we may need to turn off again if we have loading issues. thanks
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Re: Welcome all 29 Jan 2012 01:24 #3

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cyber steve wrote:
wow, it works, welcome to the new ship, take some time to snoop around before jumping me, :evil:
I hope the new ship stays "sound" and never "founders." :lol:
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Re: Welcome all 29 Jan 2012 01:40 #4

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Been rough seas so far. I never expected this much resistance to our launch. we suffered some serious, concentrated, denial of service attacks, from within the US (rare) and security thinks likely a competitor (that is normal MO we were told). Don't know who that would be but I would like to very much to find them. It has cost me a lot of money and a lot of credibility right before the Summit. I'm sure as planned.

So, here is the deal. $10,000 to whoever gets me evidence that leads to the conviction of the DOS attacks. And I will prosecute. :evil:
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Re: Welcome all 29 Jan 2012 03:02 #5

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Steve, the packet turn-around time on your server is slow compared to a lot of much larger sites. Average packet time is running between 90ms and 140ms. Just for comparison, the server array at facebook, hosting millions of people runs about the same packet numbers. Compare this to the more typical 55-90ms turn times for many sites much larger than your server/host.

Finding the source for a DOS or DDOS attacker would require admin level access to your server so I don't a $10k bounty is going to help achieve that. Moreover, if the attack is an SYN or ICMP flood, the source from your security data will show the botnet clients, not the actual attacker. Worse, if it's a peer-to-peer attack (likely), tracing becomes almost useless due to the large number of simultaneous connection attempts.

I'm sure your security team has already done the obvious but... just for grins... you guys DID block port 80, right? Probably don't have to tell you that is the first point of entry for some 99% of the lower tech attacks.

Sometimes what appears to be a distributed attack is really just normal traffic that overwhelms one of the many possible bottlenecks in system design. Server size/performance won't matter if the pipeline in/out is too small.

Cheers,
Mark
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Re: Welcome all 29 Jan 2012 04:20 #6

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Cool! Any chance of having the links changed a little. I would lke When I click on forums it goes to the forums instead of recent topics. When I login it goes to the page I'm on instead of to the social page?
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Re: Welcome all 29 Jan 2012 04:21 #7

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Hosting Service Provider should have an Intrustion Prevention System

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusion_prevention_system
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Re: Welcome all 29 Jan 2012 04:26 #8

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Mark_Gough wrote:
Steve, the packet turn-around time on your server is slow compared to a lot of much larger sites. Average packet time is running between 90ms and 140ms. Just for comparison, the server array at facebook, hosting millions of people runs about the same packet numbers. Compare this to the more typical 55-90ms turn times for many sites much larger than your server/host.

Finding the source for a DOS or DDOS attacker would require admin level access to your server so I don't a $10k bounty is going to help achieve that. Moreover, if the attack is an SYN or ICMP flood, the source from your security data will show the botnet clients, not the actual attacker. Worse, if it's a peer-to-peer attack (likely), tracing becomes almost useless due to the large number of simultaneous connection attempts.

I'm sure your security team has already done the obvious but... just for grins... you guys DID block port 80, right? Probably don't have to tell you that is the first point of entry for some 99% of the lower tech attacks.

Sometimes what appears to be a distributed attack is really just normal traffic that overwhelms one of the many possible bottlenecks in system design. Server size/performance won't matter if the pipeline in/out is too small.

Cheers,
Mark

Mark,
I appreciate your thoughtful input. First, it is very difficult to compare vastly different websites built in different architectures hosted on different platforms. All I can say, is I hire the best experts I can find and buy the best service I can find in my pursuit of bringing you the finest farrier website online experience.

Regarding the DDOS attack, again, I am only relying on the best experts, probably in the field, and what they believed occurred. The $10,000 bounty is not intended to motivate you or another computer expert to solve this mystery for me. I understand the complexity and devious nature of the attack. But, in theory, someone who reads this may know exactly who perpetrated this attack and, if it is a competitor that is involved, they may very well have employees who read this site. And those same employees may be motivated by my offer (and to clarify my offer, it includes complete amnesty to those who give me the information that I need).

As for a port 80 entry attack, I would assume that if this is a common threat entry tactic that one of the largest hosting providers in the industry has adequately address that threat. Again, this is why I hire people.

Finally, I can only rely on the expertise of the professionals who analyzed the attack to determine what is normal traffic vs a concentrated and organized denial of service assault.

Steve
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Re: Welcome all 29 Jan 2012 04:50 #9

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There is no Kunena menu. I can only see the 2 recent topics. On my page when I go to forums I only see my posts.
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